Curse

_Nihilist_ · Nov 14, 2008, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Thing is, you don't have to waste Adrenaline on anything. Wow, it takes less than a second for me to land a swing, and I get back the 1 ADR that was taken from my pool when I use SY!... What a waste...

Not to mention the fact that you don't have to spam SY! on recharge, just every few seconds, allowing for much more spam of whatever hotkey you have DSlash assigned to...

Shaking the Earth is very manly. It's fun. Screaming "Save Yourselves!" and having ALL enemy mobs look at you like a squishy and come slavering in a power-trip only to be KD-locked and impaled on your sword while everyone else mops them up is manly, too.

As far as looks... Hammer is definitely more manly than sword. Few swords can draw the same "I'm wtfbbq'd" look from who they are about to hit as opposed to hammers. I'd rather get hacked than Tenderized by a 50 lb. Sledge.

Luminarus · Nov 17, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58

I like hammers coz they look like beasts...

_Nihilist_ · Nov 18, 2008, 04:23 AM // 04:23

My Undead Maul resembles that remark!

Quartermaine · Nov 19, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

never wanted to play the dslash build but do you get perma SY with it?
I run a axe builld does decent dmg and perma SY

Shadowfox1125 · Nov 19, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by Quartermaine

never wanted to play the dslash build but do you get perma SY with it?
I run a axe builld does decent dmg and perma SY

The typical D-Slash SY build is better than any Axe SY build you could ever come up with, frankly because of D-Slash, which gives 5 adren at 14 Swordsmanship. Factor in FGJ!, which builds up adren for D-Slash, it all works up for the better.

Bobby2 · Nov 19, 2008, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

The typical D-Slash SY build is better than any Axe SY build you could ever come up with, frankly because of D-Slash, which gives 5 adren at 14 Swordsmanship. Factor in FGJ!, which builds up adren for D-Slash, it all works up for the better.

[battle rage] Axe comes damn close imho.

beserk · Nov 20, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Out of all those elites [dragon slash] has the greatest dps, utility (since you gain adren at the same time allowing you to spam [save yourselves] unlike [battle rage] since it ends when non attack skills are used.) most spammable and also has the best synergy with [brawling headbutt] provding more constant KD than you could get from [earth shaker] so it pretty much owns those elites in pve, it wasn't called godmode for no reason

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

The typical D-Slash SY build is better than any Axe SY build you could ever come up with, frankly because of D-Slash, which gives 5 adren at 14 Swordsmanship. Factor in FGJ!, which builds up adren for D-Slash, it all works up for the better.

That too ^^.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 20, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04

DSlash does not 'pretty much own' Earth Shaker, not even remotely. Whole mob KD'ed > Single target KD'ed. If the whole mob is on the ground, what do you need SY for?

_Nihilist_ · Nov 20, 2008, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

DSlash does not 'pretty much own' Earth Shaker, not even remotely. Whole mob KD'ed > Single target KD'ed. If the whole mob is on the ground, what do you need SY for?

^
QFT.

Don't compare [Brawling Headbutt] to [Earth [email protected]]. AoE KD > single-target KD anyday. Factor in once [[Earth [email protected]] hits you are free to use [[Crude [email protected]] and [[Whirlwind Attack], since you are going to be KD'ing the mobs for ~2 sec. counting your Stonefist insignia's increased KD duration (if you aren't using a Stonefist insignia as a Hammer Warrior... start using one) and the fact that you should be in an IAS stance, be it [[[email protected]] > [[Frenzy] > [[[email protected]], you are going to build enough Adrenaline in those ~2 sec. to use [[Earth [email protected]] all over again and rinse, recycle, repeat.

[[Dragon [email protected]] is easier to run, due to the fact that you pick a mob, impale it over and over while shouting [[Save Yourselves! (Kurzick)] to give all party members in shout range +100AL, vs. having to be decent at balling up the opposition before unleashing [[Earth [email protected]].

-Lotus- · Nov 20, 2008, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by beserk

Out of all those elites [dragon slash] has the greatest dps, utility (since you gain adren at the same time allowing you to spam [save yourselves] unlike [battle rage] since it ends when non attack skills are used.) most spammable and also has the best synergy with [brawling headbutt] provding more constant KD than you could get from [earth shaker] so it pretty much owns those elites in pve, it wasn't called godmode for no reason

1. earthshaker is AoE
2. Triple chop is AoE
3. AoE owns PvE

That means that Earshaker kicks way more ass than you give it credit for, and axes can easily out-damage D-slash by utilizing multiple targets.

Mesmer in Need · Nov 20, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31

If you're pro enough, you can use earth shaker, then build up enough adrenaline so that you can quarter knock the entire mob again. If you can continue that until the mob is dead, you win pve and you get a cookie.

Imo Dslash is the weakest on the list, but spamming SY is nice if you don't have a para.
[Eviscerate]+[executioner's strike]+[Asuran Scan] provides a nice spike.
A Warrior's endurance scythe probably doesn't do as much damage as the axe, but it does aoe damage, always nice for pve.

Bobby2 · Nov 20, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44

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Originally Posted by beserk

Out of all those elites [dragon slash] has the greatest dps, utility (since you gain adren at the same time allowing you to spam [save yourselves] unlike [battle rage] since it ends when non attack skills are used.) most spammable and also has the best synergy with [brawling headbutt] provding more constant KD than you could get from [earth shaker] so it pretty much owns those elites in pve, it wasn't called godmode for no reason

People, learn to [battle rage]! It now only ends on use of a non-adrenal skill.

Which means a lot of [whirlwind attack][brawling headbutt][save yourselves] or w/e.

I'm surprised nobody else tripped over this yet.

xDusT II · Nov 20, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

People, learn to [battle rage]! It now only ends on use of a non-adrenal skill.

Which means a lot of [whirlwind attack][brawling headbutt][save yourselves] or w/e.

I'm surprised nobody else tripped over this yet.

It's still a stance which means whatever you damage bonus you gain is lost due to lack of IAS.

Bobby2 · Nov 20, 2008, 11:28 AM // 11:28

[weapon of aggression], Essence of Celerity, be creative

Snow Bunny · Nov 20, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

["I am the strongest!"][whirlwind attack][earth shaker][crude swing][flail]

Only thing that makes it sexier would be [splinter weapon]

Screw swords or axes, ES > PvE.

Nightow · Nov 20, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

[weapon of aggression], Essence of Celerity, be creative

[Never Rampage Alone]

High energy cost for a war but meh...

beserk · Nov 20, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

People, learn to [battle rage]! It now only ends on use of a non-adrenal skill.

Which means a lot of [whirlwind attack][brawling headbutt][save yourselves] or w/e.

I'm surprised nobody else tripped over this yet.

^^ I stand corrected, guru needs to update these codes xD.

My point still stands though, dslash can spam more adren skills considering i am gaining 5 adren just from a single strike...and also consider my IAS [flail] which [battle rage] lacks therefore i am creating adren at a faster rate.

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

[weapon of aggression], Essence of Celerity, be creative

10 energy for an IAS thats slower than [flail] ? No thanks

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

1. earthshaker is AoE
2. Triple chop is AoE
3. AoE owns PvE

That means that Earshaker kicks way more ass than you give it credit for, and axes can easily out-damage D-slash by utilizing multiple targets.

1. [eviscerate] is mentioned on the op not [triple chop]

2. Not when my sab nec is running [splinter weapon]

Trader of Secrets · Nov 20, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

I play WD w/scythe using endurance as elite. Power Attack, Counterattack and Radiant Scythe are the only attacks I use with Scan. Damage is comparable. Any attack speed boost should make it so that SY would pop up a good time in battle. The one slot that varies with watever that helps. Very fun with splinter!

legacyofkain85 · Nov 20, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

imo SY isnt That good on a war because u are most of the time close with the mob ,u are a frontliner and the ones that need the shout more are at the backline thus many times they are out of sy range,for a sy warrior imo go spear warrior with sy on the bar o and [Earth Shaker]+[Crude Swing]+[Whirlwind Attack] is fun especially when u get into a clumped up mob and u get [Splinter Weapon] on u

Super Igor · Nov 20, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by beserk

Out of all those elites [dragon slash] has the greatest dps, utility (since you gain adren at the same time allowing you to spam [save yourselves] unlike [battle rage] since it ends when non attack skills are used.) most spammable and also has the best synergy with [brawling headbutt] provding more constant KD than you could get from [earth shaker] so it pretty much owns those elites in pve, it wasn't called godmode for no reason

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gtfo, [earth shaker] > Guild Wars imo

Seriously, aoe kd is what makes you win pve, nothing more like keeping baddies on their butts for the entire phucking battle.